The 5x5 Routine

Discussion in 'Beginner Training & Nutrition' started by PowerManDL, May 7, 2006.

  1. Cindy Day

    Cindy Day Well-Known Member

    28,717
    794
    113
    Blondell - I've done BGB before which utilizes 5X5 and I used 2-3 min RIs.

    HTH but I like Matt's answer. ;)
     
  2. PowerManDL

    PowerManDL Banned

    3,861
    180
    0
    Blondell you should know that your post actually prompted me to start on an article.

    It's titled "There Are No Programs".
     
  3. Blondell

    Blondell Former Postwhore

    41,875
    964
    113
  4. snakecharmer

    snakecharmer It's a hypnosis thing

    288
    38
    28
    I want to start this program tomorrow. I'm at work right now and cannot print it all out until I get home and can't read all of it right now (skimmed over it).
    I have a question: What is a JS row? Thanks. :)
     
  5. PowerManDL

    PowerManDL Banned

    3,861
    180
    0
    That's actually the topic of the article in question, but yall have got to stop thinking of this as a "program".

    It's not a distinct collection of sets/reps/weights that you just do unchangingly. To really get the benefit of the 5x5, you've got to break that mentality.

    This is a dynamic training system that encompasses more than just what happens at the micro-level. Much like Westside, most good OL systems, and other auto-regulating (and very productive) approaches.
     
  6. matt

    matt Slaytanic Wehrmacht

    1,918
    66
    48
    Dave Tate wrote an article about that called your program sucks. About why you should not follow a set program, but create something (a template) that works for you from writings and things you've learned along the way...
     
  7. Erik

    Erik Admin

    48,420
    912
    113
    You can't expect people new to this concept to 'get that'. This kind of realization about dynamics comes with time and experience .... and sadly for many, never at all. :lol:
     
  8. PowerManDL

    PowerManDL Banned

    3,861
    180
    0
    That's why I can still make money strength-coaching :D
     
  9. Jared

    Jared I would like some cheese.

    1,097
    97
    48
    It is not better to teach a man to fish; it is better to sell fish.
     
  10. matt

    matt Slaytanic Wehrmacht

    1,918
    66
    48
    Actually it is better to eat fish

    :wink:
     
  11. snakecharmer

    snakecharmer It's a hypnosis thing

    288
    38
    28
    I'll admit I am new to this concept. If someone could explain it a bit more, I'd appreciate it.
     
  12. matt

    matt Slaytanic Wehrmacht

    1,918
    66
    48
    Read this
     
  13. snakecharmer

    snakecharmer It's a hypnosis thing

    288
    38
    28
    Thanks, Matt...reading it right now. :)
     
  14. PowerManDL

    PowerManDL Banned

    3,861
    180
    0
    Ya, that's a good article from Dave. I've got my own take on it in the works too, just cause I like adding my 2 cents to everything. Also Dave likes to write everything from the standpoint of the Westside template, which tends to confuse people as it doesn't occur to them to see the Westside template as anything but a discrete program.

    THe principles of flexibility he outlines will apply to 5x5 (as Glenn Pendlay noted earlier in this very thread) and to any other program. Some of you might recall me bitching about retarded programs from Joel Marion and T-Mag in general for this very reason.
     
  15. snakecharmer

    snakecharmer It's a hypnosis thing

    288
    38
    28
    I started this yesterday and am very excited about it. :)

    I love the JS rows. :lifter:
     
  16. mamaj

    mamaj The Recess Monitor

    139
    10
    18
    What is an Olympic Squat and JS Row, just to be sure?
     
  17. smuggie

    smuggie Maureen aka Mo

    52,900
    1,153
    113
    For practical purposes we'll say an oly squat is a full squat. JS rows are also known as Pendlay rows.
     
  18. mamaj

    mamaj The Recess Monitor

    139
    10
    18
    Sorry, but what is a Pendlay row?
     
  19. smuggie

    smuggie Maureen aka Mo

    52,900
    1,153
    113
    I knew you were going to ask that question. :lol:

    It's essentially a strict bentover BB row that you start from the floor. There's no hip extension involved. You also use a use an explosive concentric.

    Here's more info about it:

    http://www.midwestbarbell.com/totalelite/index.php?showtopic=498&st=20&p=9976&#entry9976

    If you're not pulling with the big plates you'll most likely be bent over too much at the starting position. You need to find a way to raise the bar off the floor to counteract that.
     
  20. Tony

    Tony Well-Known Member

    3,326
    190
    63
    I ripped this off from another site. It summarizes the different approaches to 5x5 according to one's experience level:

    With regards to Stage 3, my thinking is that the deadlift should be kept at maintenance or lighter. Thus, one should choose to pusher either the 1x5 squat,5x5 squat, or the deadlift. Once you achieve a certain level of strength, IMHO, I don't think it would be a good idea to push up the squat and deadlift at the same time.
     

Share This Page