Makes sense to me, would y'all agree, disagree? I'm also curious, when you guys started training and learning this stuff yourselves, what programs did YOU use? Honestly, I started in high school, with almost no guidance just doing 3x10 on machines after volleyball/tennis practice. No idea what I was doing, but loved it! When I got to college, I took my guidance from Muscle and Fitness Hers and M&F when I got to grad school - I had no idea to look anywhere else. It obviously got me somewhere, though not as far as I could go in the amount of time I was lifting. 3x8 on arm day won't grow a lot after 10 years of this stuff, you know? I wish then I'd known where to look! What would be some resources to where you would point newbies thirsting for knowledge? I come across them all the time at VS and want to give good direction.